Any of your pre-season tools like this for Sunderland care?

I think the furthest we ever went was probably...

I'll tell you where we went, Nigel Mansell's place.

You remember that? I think it was Woodbury Park or Woodbury Avenue.

Yeah, in the middle of nowhere.

It had a football pitch and that was about it.

It had the golf course, which was okay, but Scotland.

right just finally then wrap things up how we're feeling ahead of the new season I know the transfer market is a bit slow because of the World Cup but

And the voice is back with us again, Kevin Phillips.

Good morning, Dave.

Thanks for having me back-to-back.

Unbelievable, right? I'm very excited today.

Are you? Well, I'm always excited to be here, but I'm so excited today.

I'm beside myself with excitement.

I might need a pair of headphones.

than a tie.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

All day long, you know, and I can't stress enough.

I always say it whenever I talk to, you know, guys like you.

It, it's...

You know, if it wasn't for, for the owner and the people around him for, you know, doing what they've done since they've been at the football club, Sunderland wouldn't be where they are, you know? So they've invested.

And I, and I said before not just in the pitch but on the stadium, in the surrounding area.

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