Managing a store of this size so early in the morning, what needs to be done to get ready for the day?

Uh, morning, Paul.

Um, th- there's lots to be done, uh, first thing in the morning, just before we open, really.

You could start off with a team of about seven or eight from half 5:00 onwards.

As I said, it's mainly the goods in wards, the deli.

Uh, you have the floor staff, because we have to day check everything in the morning as well before we open.

So, like, we're, we're day checking all the fresh food departments, um, at half 5:00 in the morning, and we need that completed by 7:00 a.m.

A lot busier than people would actually expect.

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They put me through some, some wringers on some of these trips, and we often talk about, "If you don't hike in the winter, you're not a true backpacker." That's the way you level up.

You increase your, your fortitude by, you know, putting yourself through adverse situations, and they like to do it.

So, um, this trip, the one thing about winter is, like, sometimes you just, with not much daylight, you crawl into your hole.

You just have to sit there and hope that you wake up in the morning and the sunlight hits you, and you're like, "Oh, God, I'm so glad the sunlight came." But this trip was something that I thought had that opportunity to have some camaraderie even at camp, where you didn't have to sit there and just shiver.

I planned this trip, and it didn't go the way I want it to, and you're gonna hear the story, but it was-

And so for people thinking about hikes to do in that region of the country, why is the Girard Trail, this loop, something that people should consider doing?

The amount of things you get to see is unbelievable.

I, I teased it. I was like, uh, you know, ju- uh, just better, just better to leave you in suspense. But-

Is it, is it the fact that you didn't clue me on the 7+1?

After you called me sugar tits.

Did you really?