And that jungle, unfortunately, now, if it's in that five foot to 30 foot zone, is a fire trap.

Yeah.

So the five foot to 30 foot zone, which, you know, the traditional defensible space zones are zone one, five to 30 and zone two, 30 to 100.

And now, of course, we're going to have this zone zero, that's the zero to five.

So the five to 30 is commonly called the lean, clean and green zone.

And so this is where things immediately get funny because here as I'm representing the Master Gardener Program, during the drought years, our messaging was what? It was remove those lawns, put in drought tolerant plants, use a ton of mulch, right? Right.

And now...

Yeah, I noticed that Talfire even recommends that you keep your trees trimmed so that the closest branch of a tree has to be greater than 10 feet away from a chimney.