Mm.

And, um, from the very first time that I started singing and thing, I was like, "How do people make money with this?" So I, I saw Michael Jackson interviews, Stevie Wonder interviews and, and hear the whispers in the bands about publishing when they talking, saying the publishing is the long-term money, and all this kinda thing.

And I was like, "Okay, that is what I want." 'Cause a lot of people are caught up with this now money, give me money now, but the money that's gonna be there when I can't work, [laughs] that's the money I want.

So I made sure when we was negotiating, I was like, "My publishing, my publishing," and my manager was, like, tired of me.

So I was like, "The publishing, I'm not giving up my publishing.

I want my publishing." So the label knew that they couldn't even bring that conversation to me, but the conversation they could bring was the royalties, so they-

Mm.

I was kicking and screaming, arguing with Atlantic Records and my manager, like, "The Caribbean is not the place to play this." Like, you don't take somebody record who's number one already in different places in the world and already big in the Caribbean and hand it to me and have me sing it and say, "Oh, it's Kevin Lyttle." You know, like, and it turned into big bacchanal between my management and the, and, and Mr.