Was that a direct, like, jump from Grayhouse to founding Hither Too? Was there a, a gap year or something?

Uh, well, there definitely was some sort of a gap.

Uh, you know, oddly enough, we had made the decision to actually move.

Um, this is my hometown, Greenfield, where I grew up.

My wife's from Knightstown, so it's just 10 minutes down the road.

Um, but, uh, you know, we wanted to get back to the area.

We kind of, like, Grayhouse just had a major renovation, turned out beautiful.

Uh, had you already been into board games for quite a while? And then what this, uh, did this concept make it harder for people to really see it as potential for backing financially?