What was the appeal to, to join that franchise initially when you first got the job?

Well, I was, I was the defensive coordinator.

Uh, I spent four years in the AF2 as a he- head, head coach, three years at Tennessee Valley Vipers, and then my last year in AF2 I took over Rio Grande Valley Toros.

And they were four and 12, I think, the year before I got there.

And, um, I went down and, and, uh, Trey Medlock hired me to come down and, and turn that program around.

And, uh, you know, I, I went down and, and we got to the, to the conference championship game that year.

We won 12 games.

Yeah.