But let's kind of talk a little bit about what it took for you to get to that stage.

So when I was at Aetna, I sat on a board of a nonprofit organization that would promote lawyers from diverse backgrounds.

And I met the general counsel of Beringer Ingelheim.

Her name was Marla Persky.

And she and I got on really well.

And she wanted me to join Beringer Ingelheim.

And at that time, I told her, first, I had never heard of Beringer Ingelheim, even though it was a 40,000 employee, you know, 10, $12 billion in sales a year company.

But I think a lot of people struggle with establishing the credibility that they have that then prevents them from applying the risk lens or the toolbox that they've, you know, accumulated over their career in pursuit of the, impact necessary for the organization.