It's hard to keep track.

Yes.

But there's this, there's this appendix, it's called Appendix B, and it is a list of questions that were recommended to ask in an evaluation of the MPAs.

And what we did is we spent a lot of time going through those questions, identifying which ones, like, were not really worded great, like they weren't actually questions that you could answer.

It wasn't clear what data you would need to use.

Um, so we went through and refined those questions, and we also identified questions that were missing, and we just tried to put together a framework for the state to use in their evaluation of the marine protected areas, 'cause this was happening right as the decadal management review was starting.

And one of the really important things that we did in that work was to reframe, uh, marine protected areas for the state of California into a socio-ecological framework.

Right.