Tell us about that and then what inspired, what made you so passionate about Get Griefy?

Yeah, it's really ironic, actually, that here I am, full circle moment, I'm making grief my entire personality and my brand, my... my profession.

But prior to all of these experiences that I lived, I was like truly, no pun intended, deathly afraid of death and grief.

I remember the first time in my adult life when I really came to terms with the fact that at one point we're all going to experience loss.

And at one point, maybe we're all going to be kind of sitting alone and just, um, left to pick up the pieces, my husband's grandmother took her husband to a surgery during the day and it was just like a routine thing and he didn't make it out of the surgery.

And I just remember She needed help, like, planning the funeral and kind of just getting the things in order.

And I remember that entire experience.

Tell us about that magazine and how that, do they overlap?