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Oct 15, 2026
EP37 – The Fragile Dragon: How China Sees Itself and The World Sees China
41:10

Ker GibbsGUEST
I got to be honest with you, though, that the first draft of this book was not good.
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The Fragile Dragon: Trade, Trump, and China's Vulnerabilities | Ker Gibbs
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Steve OrlinsHOST
I wish it was in a better place, but I'm optimistic about the future, as always.

Ker GibbsGUEST
As you mentioned, you know, I did have the, the previous book, uh, that we came out with.
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