Talk to us about that and what you're seeing through the advice channel and where you think we are in a maturity model of the role and the profession within law enforcement.

Yeah, I think it's come a long way.

When Toronto started their agency, they were the first...

I know from a federal perspective, the RCMP were doing some things, but also provincially, the Ontario Provincial Police were doing some things in cyber.

But Toronto was certainly the first municipal agency in Canada to kick off a cyber unit.

And we...

We quickly saw other jurisdictions like out in Calgary and in Vancouver and even within the greater Toronto area, York region, Peel region.

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