And I really like to create structures, right? So I go in and I build a system out of everything.

And I think, like, this, and I also say, like, I caught the sense, I was like, yeah, I fully got Josh back, because, like, working with you at all times, because, remember, like, I was introduced, like, to go sit down and watch Josh paint.

So, in my eyes, it was all, like, oh, cool, like, I'm not a real artist, but this guy is.

I'll just, like, learn, I'll just, like, learn from him.

So, in a sense, it was, like, I would stress my beliefs or things that I knew were real.

And like you said, Josh would always make it apparent or it was important for him to create that structure.

So like, the eigen ground and like, just like developing that mechanical like system or the scientific or whatnot, and just like drawing that out and making sure that's relatable, not just something that you believe wholeheartedly that you can't deny, but it's, you still like, you put it into terms where we all can access it or like reach it at our own like pivot points.

So any statements on this series? This was my major one.