Tell us a little bit about what that means, what's the insight that you have, and how are people like us that are starting companies, how should we think about this?

Yeah, I think maybe we can take a step back on what's kind of happening and what has happened to software engineering.

I think I just talked about VS Code, a product we built more than a decade ago.

I'm not using VS Code anymore because my agent is writing the code.

So we are fundamentally a different kind of reality when it comes to writing software, is that when you're building an infrastructure company today, you're not really targeting the individual developer anymore, but you're targeting the agent.

And I think we spent the past 15 years talking about developer experience and optimizing everything for developer experience, but we're now going through this reality where we're transitioning from developer experience to agent experience.

And that's because we have a new consumer of everything that we do.

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