So how long ago was it that you first started seeing the green crab show up here?

Uh, it was around 2013, probably 2014.

We did a sample in 2000 and, I don't know if it was 12 or 13.

Me and my brother, we had a one pot each.

We gave, the FFAW gave it to us, and we, uh, put them out.

We tried it in four or five different places here around Arm, here in places, and we got one.

The following year, there was, they came out with a, a project, I guess, for one year, and the place was full.

How much better do you think it would be if there was a market for them so there's more incentive to try and pull them out of the water and be able to sell them?