What would you recommend? Is there some kind of cadence that you would recommend that they follow or start to follow on a weekly, monthly, or quarterly basis? Or all three.

So a couple things that I would put on the agenda for them to think about very seriously as they approach retirement.

So I'm gonna start with something called place planning.

This is to the story of your mother-in-law.

Place where we live is a big driver of social connections.

So you think about sort of the challenge of the suburb or a rural community, an exurb, versus an urban environment, versus a multigenerational environment.

There's an entire discipline that's just emerging now called place planning, where you try to think about where am I gonna live, who I'm gonna live near, and how am I gonna think about the physical structure of where I live and how I retire.

However, I'm curious, what was the number two factor?

And it's really kind of a, I think an important story to share.

Yeah.

For your listeners, I'll do the setup.

So this was the middle of my research.

I'd spent a month in Asia.

I had a month in Europe coming up.

I'm in between the sort of two legs.

Can you give some examples of communities and countries that have effectively connected people?

And they do it by doing things like what?

Yeah.

So the key to social connection is being, um, around like-minded people.

Uh, the science of social connection and friendship is you have to be...... proximate to someone for up to 50 hours to be a friend, 200 hours to be a close friend.

And what happens in- as we age is we get socially isolated and have less chance to make connections.

So, in these countries, uh, it's all about, how do you take people as they age and put them next to people, um, uh, uh, for- for many hours? So, that's often about working longer.

Um.

I mean, like, how does it happen?

That must have

been hard on you.

It was not at all.

But what was hard on me was...

Like at the other 22 tables, people were talking about their big plans for the future.

New jobs, careers, kids, vacation.

That was sort of the architecture of the conversation as you expect to have at a wedding.

For millennials and younger.