So how did you feel? I mean, you weren't hunting during that

time, were you? I was.

Yeah, I was.

So I had an interest in the outdoors for sure.

Yeah.

And I kind of thought, I think in hindsight, you don't know a lot of times what you're doing at that point in life and why you do it.

But I think it was the...

totally totally understand that it's so interesting to hear this so what how do you use like what do you use what's your form like when you decide i'm going to do you decide i'm going to sculpt this or does it come to you or