How did you end up building the community around you, the coalition that really helped get that through?

So I, I want to emphasize that it was a team effort, and it came from, uh, different places.

So in the US, GAPS BIF, the Global Alliance for Prevention of Spina Bifida, started making a call to action to the neurosurgical community.

In the meantime, I was doing my doctoral research at George Washington University in devising a knowledge transfer toolkit to get the knowledge to the decision-makers in Latin America.

So the International Federation for Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus were advocating from the patients' and families' sides.

So we had also civil society and the scientific community, some governments taking, uh, action, too.

So with the result of my doctoral research, we was-- which was exactly how to overcome the barriers and how to leverage the facilitators to, to get that knowledge.

What did Colombia do that other countries could replicate?