Wow.

And he won the national or the world champion barbecue with Kansas City Barbecue's Team of the Year.

And you have to have all the barbecue competitions, you have to have the highest number of points earned of any team.

And he did that twice, in 2008 and in 2011 as well.

Almost did it in 2012.

So, again, we say it's competition quality, it's championship quality, really.

And we have dozens and dozens of awards and and all that and really from state coast to coast from California to New Jersey Florida to Minnesota Texas even went down there a few times and so it's it's really those recipes were forged during those times he was always perfecting them we have a fun story about we have an 07 sauce and that it was perfected in the year of 2007 and that became our classic sauce that we still serve today

right? But you're the true professional, so, I mean, what's your go-to whenever you're sitting down at Q39?