Well, I think that's all

the time we have.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Go ahead.

Hey, Sleeping With Sirens is doing a tax on Warped Tour.

It's called the Hot Tax.

So if any band you interview, you ask them how they're doing, they say, good, but it's really hot.

social security number if you actually just want

What's your take on that?

I mean, honestly, I think that there's a lot of nods to artists that we admire and grew up listening to.

But I think like we're just kind of being ourselves, really.

I mean, I think that all the visuals and stuff, the way that those worked out was that we wanted to have visuals that made sense with the songs themselves.

And like looking back on things that I grew up listening to and stuff that inspired me to make music, I just think like those are the visuals that I wanted to go for.

And it's not like this whole like leaning into what music's been doing.

It's more of just let's lean into like what we started doing this for.

Can you explain the trilogy?

How did that manifest itself in the writing process or the kind of recording process? How did that inject into this?

I think what I mean when I say there's Let's Cheers to this influence on the record isn't necessarily the songs themselves, although I think there are some songs that mirror that record.

It's more so just the carefree nature of making that record.

When we made Let's Cheers, we were coming off a record that... initially didn't really have any sort of credibility within the critics of the music space.

I think when With Ears to See and I See Here came out, some publications gave it a star out of four.

And so we didn't really have any sort of expectation going into making Let's Cheers to This other than, hey, let's make a record that sounds like us and not a record that sounds like know we're trying to be something that we're not and i feel like this record mimics that album in that way where we went into the studio it's our eighth album i feel like when you get to that point as a band it's like you gotta make something that lights you up otherwise you're just repeating what you've done over and over and over again which i find like refreshing that people think that it's like an um you know like a look back to some of the older records but i think like honestly it is just us being carefree enough to just make music we want to make and maybe that's why it does reference some of those other albums because when we were making those records we didn't think about anything other than let's have fun you know

Are you looking at any bands and getting inspired by what they're doing that's kind of different from the way that you've been doing things at Sleeping With Sirens yourselves? Or are you looking to find a way to be that next Nirvana or something? No, no.

No, it's not us.

Can you talk about the title?

I'm a big fan of naming a record that also has a song with the- the same name, like a title track.

Um, and so I'm always just kind of, like, sifting through the songs to figure out which one has, like, the coolest vibe to me.

And that one just felt like...

And somehow they always, like, make sense for the record as a whole anyways, but An Ending in Itself made the most sense for me because I feel like I view, like, How It Feels to Be Lost, Complete Collapse, and this record as, like, a trilogy of sorts.

And this feels like a really good ending to, like, three albums basically is kinda what I was thinking.

So you've got, like, How It Feels to Be Lost, which is, like, me coming from, like, a pretty dark place in my life, to Complete Collapse, which is just basically, like, the collapse of everything 'cause it was, like, right out of COVID.

Where did you learn how to sing? Has it always been that way, your range?

Yeah.

Yeah, it was its, it was its own thing.

Um, all the songs for Haunted Mouths are written with Aaron Marsh in the studio, so, like, all of the piece of music that I got, um, kind of contributed to, like, what I was writing about with him.

Whereas, like, the Sleeping With Sirens stuff was written together with, you know, the band in the room with Will Yip in the studio in Philly.

So it was just, it was definitely very different, but I guess the one thing that kind of like-Cascaded over to the Sirens record was me bringing, like, a journal full of a bunch of lyrics and just having, like, starts to things, like, whether it was just, like, a phrase or, you know, a thought or an idea that would help kinda kickstart the process.

'Cause it's our eighth album, so there's only so many times you can get a, a power chord riff and then [laughs]-

Yeah

... it's a really great way to finish, like, the thought.