Why don't you frame it and then Luca jump in?

Yeah, so if we look at what the cloud providers, let's focus on the cloud providers.

And Luca, I would imagine you know this extremely well because this is your area.

They've done a really great job of standardizing At least serving, that's analyzing might not be the best word, serving the platform engineering audience.

We've gotten to a point where platform engineering as a discipline has evolved from trying to make every cloud look like a single cloud to really getting developers what they need.

They need observability, developers and operators.

They need observability.

fair fair guys we got maybe time for one more round of comments and we gotta close it out Keith what's your what's your summation here