Can you explain those models, or at least one of those models of what the expectation of what you should be like or what you should be doing? 'Cause I guess they're two different but possibly related things.

Yeah.

So if, if, if I looked at, um, again, I'll stick with my, my grandfathers.

They, they, they both worked really hard.

They both had jobs that were highly manual, very hard work, and they worked very long hours.

I sort of recognize that I've come to absorb that.

I kind of, almost a part of how I value myself has been tied in the past to how hard I've worked and how much I've grafted, which sometimes is healthy and maybe sometimes isn't.

What are you doing or what do you think you would do to counter that and then better enable him to focus on self and what he wants to be rather than what other people say, as you mentioned earlier?