But then there's problems, obviously, with that.

Yeah.

I think in terms of theorizing cognitive science theories, et cetera, historically there's been something insidious that's been underlying this approach.

The ecological dynamics approach is much more focused on biological the biological basis of human behavior human interaction with the environment giving proper attention to the environment and that you know with that comes um uh attention to natural physical laws etc and that leads you towards considering humans as another species on the planet whereas the technological, the brain is a computer, maybe philosophically elevates humans.

Well, not maybe, it does.

The philosophical basis elevates humans to a controlling species on the planet.

And with this sort of powerful intellect and this capacity to process information, to store information, to represent the world, model the world.

I'm keen to hear your thoughts on that.

So maybe start there for us.

Yeah.

So SEALs have some fairly well-defined missions.

Most people think of the SEALs as the direct action, special reconnaissance.

They do unconventional warfare.

They do foreign internal defense.

They train others.

Can you walk us through a little bit about that evolution? Where you think it's going? Sort of what are some things that you're seeing today?