Would you see the UK fitting in between those two? Do you see them as trying to mimic what they're trying to do in either what, either state, or do you see us trying to do something fundamentally different?

The amount of money that's being spent by these two countries on frontier artificial intelligence systems is immense.

I mean, we're talking about s- uh, something around $7 trillion over the next five years in capital expenditure in the US alone on AI and AI infrastructure.

It's just an, an immense amount of money.

And so the question that everybody has to ask themselves is, one, can they afford it? And two, if not, what do you do, uh, given that reality? And I think this is where a lot of countries find themselves today, is they can't afford it and it, it, it is incredibly expensive, but doesn't mean you just give up and don't do anything.

The UK is really well placed to, for example, work with smaller language models, do domain specific, uh, sort of approaches to AI, like in healthcare.

Uh, there's a lot of opportunity in open source AI, I would say.

... is, do you feel like that's a problem?