Does that ever come up? Does like any crazy idea ever like come up? Like, what if we did

this? Yeah.

So it's funny.

I think sometimes, sometimes, and I think it's getting better, you know, having PE backing used to have like, not a great vibe in this industry.

Like you took on PE backing, that was a bad call.

And my honest to God take has been, PE is only a dirty word if you choose the wrong partner.

And when we went to find our PE partner, we talked to so many.

time when Crispin was like a very well-oiled machine.