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Katrina Markoff

CEO of Vosges

Sep 16, 2026

19:07
And by the way, we're going to do all this cool stuff that you don't need to worry about right now.
19:12
I mean, I am trying to like science and spirituality all in one, like the financial models and the manifestation models, like all in the same, like together.
19:24
And so I think people will opt out if they don't like that kind of culture.
19:29
And I am not afraid anymore of talking about that to anyone, to a landlord.
19:36
And it's funny, the more you talk about it, the more people feel comfortable to say what they're, Feeling cute.
19:41
And at the end of the day, this is all the like just... be a positive impact in the world and get people to get out of codependent, fear-based relationships so that they can take a risk on themselves.
19:52
And it is a messy thing.

10 MINS LATER

29:54
So just starting with like biodynamic cacao, what does that mean?
23:13
hmm,
23:14
interesting that art and science are like interesting to me.
23:18
And then the opposites of like things that they were doing in some of these restaurants, especially at El Bulli, just blew your mind.
23:26
Like they would make, you know, savory tomato sorbet.
23:30
And like at that time, like no one was doing that as ice cream was sweet and cream-based.
23:35
There was not, you know, these other things.
23:37
And so Ferran said to me, don't waste your time working at Michelin three-star restaurants anymore.

6 MINS LATER

29:15
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