And how do you go about it? Could you introduce us to the Theory U framework and approach in, in broad terms?

So Theory U is several things.

One, it describes different qualities of how I can attend to a situation.

So what's my quality of listening? Do I just download, or am I curious, or am I opening up my capacity to feel and to sense? So Theory U describes these different qualities.

And to deepen our awareness and our quality of attention, Theory U suggests also several process steps which starts to break through patterns of downloading, sense and, and lean into what's really the current reality.

Step back.

You know, we all know this.

Where has that work got to? Could you give us some sense of the sectors you've covered and the kind of results that you've seen?