Both rivals, yeah.

No, I think coming from obviously a rival club, it can rub fans up the wrong way at times.

But for me, I think it was an important part of my career to start a new chapter.

And I think having had conversations with Sonia, I knew Chelsea was the right place for me coming in in the summertime.

And I think Chelsea has always been a club that has won a lot of trophies.

And you can feel the winning mentality when you come into the dressing room.

So yeah, it was a good fit.

That's crazy.

But can you give me, I don't know, the thought process that goes on when you're making a decision to come to not just a huge club like Chelsea, but also a big rival of a, of a club like Arsenal?

Yeah, I think obviously when you're coming into the last year of your contract, it's a little bit different obviously with women's and men's football.

I think, um, the clubs tend to let you go into your last year.

So I think obviously naturally discussions happened, um, and yeah, for me it was, uh, clear that it was time to obviously start a new chapter.

And I think understanding what I wanted to do, knowing how I feel, my age, it was, it was time for me to, like, make that next step, but also not drop a level.

Um, and I think Chelsea have been such a winning team over the last few years.

Um, you can see it how they play, the mentality.

What's it like as a player?

It must've been a pretty exciting period to play through.

Yeah, I think over the last 10 years, um, in England the game has grown massively.

Um, I think you can see now the type of players that are wanting to come to England and, and play for football clubs.

Um, it shows how competitive the league is.

Um, so for me, obviously to, to sign for Chelsea in the summer, um, was really im- important for me, um, to understand the manager and what she wants, um, and the demands obviously as the team.

I think for so many years Chelsea have been so dominant and you can understand and feel the winner mentality they have The minute you walk through the door, so I think it's important to, to understand that, um, and obviously bring what you can as well

The essence of women's top league football and men's top league football, how would you describe that, if indeed there is any difference?

Um, yeah, I guess there's obviously a lot of similarities and differences, um, in, in different aspects of, of both the men's and women's game.

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How do you assess tonight's performance by the team overall?

Yeah, look, I was really proud of the, the girls.

Katie, um, how surreal does it feel that that was your last game for Arsenal?

It hasn't quite, um, sunk in yet.

Um, the last two weeks have been an emotional one, um, with the girls, with the team.

Had some family stuff going on.

Obviously, I missed the game against Villa and stuff, so it's been an emotional, uh, emotional two weeks.

But look, obviously, um, for me, coming in as a, a 20-year-old, uh, 10 years ago, not knowing what to expect, um, leaving here having won everything and given my absolute everything to the club, um, building up the relationship with the fans since two, three hundred p- uh, people at Boreham Wood up until, um, even today packing out the away stand, three thousand people.

The Emirates as well on Wednesday, it was incredible.

And what is it about this club that's made you stay for so long?

Uh, Katie, there's a film, there's a kind of under-the-radar film you like very much.

There is.

So this is...

I wasn't planning to see it, um, but then there was, like, a whisper network of recommendations.

Uh, it's a film in Directors' Fortnight called Gaban, which I hope I'm pronouncing it right, uh, send complaints my way if I am not, um, by a director called, uh, Maxence Vu.

And he, i- it's a debut.

Um, but he has done a sort of mid-length film before, which was also...

Well, I mean, Boyhood is not a documentary, so-

Did it help you gain confidence? Just k- kind of take us into your head at that time.

When I went over, I signed a two-year deal.

Um, and it was after the first year I was, like, struggling with not a lot of game time, but obviously knew who was in front of me.

Um, so it was really hard to compete with that, um, little kid from Ireland trying to, trying to get, um, some minutes in a, a massive Arsenal team.

It was really difficult.

Um, so then for me, I had a conversation, um, with the club in the January because we were in the summer season still, and I looked to go on loan in the January, and they kinda said, "Look, no, we've ...

We're gonna, like, obviously build in, like, some minutes in the next, um, the next six months." And that kinda didn't happen, which it happens in football.

How did it feel to lift the trophy with Arsenal in this moment?