We're so delighted to have you back on air.

Well, thank you.

I'm delighted to be here.

And I think, uh, this is interesting for me 'cause I haven't gone in and excavated, you know, what I was saying or thinking in 2020.

That resonates.

Um, that, that tracks.

That sounds like something I would've said.

He's great.

Tell us about the show and why you created it.

Well, thank you.

A little bit of an interesting and non-linear story, ironically, given the name.

So yes, Linear Digression started in 2015.

At the time, I was in grad school.

I had taken a summer off.

I was over at Udacity, if anyone is familiar with sort of the mid-2010s online MOOC.

Whereas a lot of the heavy lifting, almost all of the work was done on the front end by you.

That's a different kind of policy, right? Most people would go like 12, maybe even older, right?

Yeah, we did have eight plus previously and we've brought that down to six.

Two reasons.

One, we want to really encourage intergenerational travel.

We live in this world that is just getting busier and busier and more isolated and more isolated.

And if we can play a role in bringing multi-generational families together and having that time together, then we want to embrace that.

And I think the other part to that is why do we exist? We exist to transform lives and protect the planet.

And he also had a nice cabin.

Thank you, Katie.

Yeah, I think on my side, I don't think that the advent of AI has moved us that far on linear digressions in terms of the content that we cover.

We've always tended to be a little bit more on the technical side.

My nerd brain likes to talk about how these algorithms work a little bit more than what's happening right now in the AI hype cycle.

There's plenty of other good... people who are commentating on AI and different aspects of it in society.

And I've been doing this long enough that I know where my sweet spot is.

And it's not like algorithm of the week.

So you may not be much organization, but how much, you know, affect you as a podcaster other than saving your time? It's like, how much are you using AIs for you or broadly speaking as an individual?