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Katie Batza

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May 2, 2026

18:31
and doorways being in the middle and Westboro Baptist kind of being the far right.
18:35
So I'll start with doorways.
18:39
No, I won't.
18:39
I will start with Trinity baseball.
18:42
This is a church in the central west end of St. Louis that has a long history of kind of being a very progressive church, whether it's like kind of deciding to stay in this neighborhood through racial integration or or whether it's welcoming its doors to gay people and doing the earliest same-sex ceremonies, like way back in the 60s, there's some talk of that, and you see it in the archives.
19:13
But by the time HIV and AIDS comes along, they kind of have a track record, right? So they're using their religion to kind of challenge these sensibilities, right? To say like, look, we are sure the heartland imaginary requires or expects some sort of religiosity, some sort of pious behavior.
19:33
But we're going to push against many other parts of the white heartland imaginary ideals by saying that piousness requires us to show care and compassion and create community and And so they're kind of trying to use the toehold that they have of religion as a way into respectability to kind of challenge all these other pieces that are otherwise oppressive to people with HIV and AIDS oftentimes.

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imaginary renegotiate and reimagine what home medical care or community care look like?
18:07
So could you walk our listeners through each of these examples and explain how those three compare in their responses to the AIDS crisis?
18:14
crisis?Yeah, sure.
18:16
I mean, I think, um, they're kind of...
18:19
I- if you imagine kind of a political spectrum [laughs], they kind of move from the far left to the far right, right? So with Trinity kind of holding down the, the far left or a farther left, um, a- and Doorways being in the middle, and Westboro Baptist kind of being the far right.
18:34
Right.
18:35
So, um, I'll s- I'll start with Doorways.
18:38
I mean, no, I won't.

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25:50
How do the medical responses to the crisis in the heartland illustrate a regionally specific approach to HIV AIDS history? And of course, building on the arguments of your previous chapters that you just walked us through, how do those denied access to the white heartland imaginary renegotiate and reimagine what home medical care or community care look like?
18:10
So could you walk our listeners through each of these examples and explain how those three compare in their responses to the AIDS crisis?
18:17
crisis?Yeah, sure.
18:19
I mean, I think, um, they're kind of...
18:22
I- if you imagine kind of a political spectrum, [laughs] they kind of move from the far left to the far right, right? So with Trinity kind of holding down the, the far left or farther left, um, a- and Doorways being in the middle, and Westboro Baptist kind of being the far right.
18:38
So, um, I'll s- I'll start with Doorways.
18:41
I mean, no, I won't.
18:42
I will start with Trinity, uh, Episcopal.

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25:37
How do the medical responses to the crisis in the heartland illustrate a regionally specific approach to HIV-AIDS history? And of course, building on the arguments of your previous chapters that you just walked us through, how do those denied access to the white heartland imaginary renegotiate and reimagine what home medical care or community care look like?

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