Yeah.

Um, well, initially, um, I didn't study issues related to race and discrimination until I had an undergraduate student who was interested in this, and I said, "Well, sure, I'm, I'm happy to.

This sounds interesting to me too, but I have no expertise in it." Um, and I started collaborating, um, with her and, and with some other co-authors, um, uh, just on, on the topic.

Um, in my first sabbatical here in management science, you of course can't get away from Bay Area, and at the time it was gig work, you know, everyone's studying gig workers.

Um, and I had started thinking about, um, evaluations of gig workers, specifically when it related to, to gender, and I had a conversation with a friend of mine about hiring a male nanny.

Um, and would you do that and, and what sort of, you know, what processes enable that, especially when you're selecting from a bunch of people, what are your attributions about people's motives? Um, but I wasn't able to get data to study it.

Um, so I had reached out to a couple of companies asking to sort of if they would be willing to share data, and I got nowhere.

Is this a research project who-- which will be in-- done entirely online, or c- uh, does this stuff go on in the physical world as well? Or, are you interested in that side of it as well?