So from what I'd ask you, Kate, is in terms of with mayors, with those communities, have you seen any changes in how the public are engaging in the sorts of things that you're saying?

I think what's important to note is that At the local level, mayors are closest to the problems, right? And governors are closer to the problem than the federal administration as well.

And so for mayors, if you've ever tried to have lunch with a mayor, the amount of times you're going to get stopped during that lunch or during that coffee or running into them at the grocery store, they are on 24-7.

And they are often experiencing people through their pain points.

And so mayors don't have the luxury or interest in being partisan or overly academic about these problems.

They are being put on the spot consistently around really needing to deliver on the problems that people are experiencing.

And that is everything from, you know, pothole problems to big issues like climate change or affordability and so i think really the mayors have been ahead of some of the national narratives around how we how we talk about these issues mayors for a long time have not tried to lead the conversation around greenhouse gas emissions or you know overly kind of wonky frameworks we know that the science is what got us here and we know it's important to set targets and to have accountability around those targets but the entry point for mayors around these issues are the kitchen table issues it's what people are experiencing right now and so we think a lot in our coalition about household affordability or household economics and That does not separate one issue from another.

So has it been a different road for you in terms of how media change? Has the media even changed at all on a local level? And how is that impacting how mayors tell their stories?

Can you talk about some cities that are just doing remarkable things, and can you give me some examples of, of where, uh, cities are really leading the charge on this?

Absolutely.

We've seen mayors across our network in a variety of different city types, s- different sizes, different political landscapes lead in a number of different areas.

I think two areas we've seen the most is transportation and buildings.

That's really where these fossil fuel reductions are coming from.

So we have mayors like Mayor Gallego out of Phoenix, Arizona, who's shown leadership on so many issues, but related to this in particular in transportation.

So they've been able to put almost 12 new miles of light rail in.

So there's, how you, how do you manage to balance and, and what are the mayors doing about it?