And does that change if we're discussing uncertainty with colleagues or students at all? Or just do a similar thing?

I don't think it changes.

Yeah, I think it's a pretty similar mechanism.

Again, I think maybe for... you know, colleagues, it's important to try and facilitate things like emotional regulation and reflective capacity when we're looking at, you know, navigating uncertainty in health care, because I think a lot of, you know, less experienced clinicians come out of university and they're again very, you know, they're really clinging to uncertainty or they're clinging to certainty.

They like frameworks and they like to have the answers.

And I think it is just a journey that, you know, clinicians have to go on is to it's their own developmental learning journey to understand that actually, you know, humans desire for certainty is one of life's greatest paradox, because there really is no certainty at all.

And I think, you know, we we can use our roles to, again, role model, you know, show humility and admit when we make mistakes and, you know, just kind of sit there in the uncertainty going, you know, look, I know it's really hard.

Thank you.