So, Kate, tell us, how did you learn about this online newspaper in the first place and why did it raise questions for you?

So I first saw this through another Florida journalist who posted a story purportedly from the South Florida Standard.

And if I recall correctly, it had to do with some local government coverage out of the city of Sarasota.

But the photo that accompanied the story was clearly not Sarasota, Florida.

I believe it was a photo of New York City.

um and so this other florida journalist you know posted this story um and basically it was like what's what's going on here um and also alleged that uh this story by the south florida standard um had been cribbed from his own outlet um had been plagiarized and so that caught my attention and i went to the website for the south florida standard and immediately um you know, red flags started going off in my head because there is this whole roster of reporters who, you know, were purported to be longtime Florida journalists.

I'm working for, you know, decades who I had never heard of.

I mean, there was one reporter, as you say, who shared a name with an actual reporter, but the rest of them, what did you find?

Kate explained that this journalist...

Posted that this outlet, the South Florida Standard, had plagiarized one of their stories.

So I was like, "That's weird.

Like, I've never heard of this outlet.

What's going on here?" And not only that, but the photo that was associated with the story was pretty, pretty misleading.

That's jumped out to you as, like, how do I not know any of these people?

Yeah.

And when doing just some pretty basic backgrounding of, like, googling these people, with few exceptions, they had virtually no other internet footprint.

Kate explained that this journalist-

Posted that this outlet, the South Florida Standard, had plagiarized one of their stories.

So I was like, "That's weird.

Like, I've never heard of this outlet.

What's going on here?" And not only that, but the photo that was associated with the story was pretty, pretty misleading.

That's jumped out to you as like, "How do I not know any of these people?"

Yeah.

And when doing just some pretty basic backgrounding of, like, googling these people, with few exceptions, they had virtually no other internet footprint.

I was gonna ask, how have these reports been used in the past, those, those more robust reports, uh, prior to 2020? How, how did regulators or healthcare providers use them?

Sure.

Uh, so this panel dates back to 1996, interdisciplinary panel of a number of different kinds of experts, midwives, doctors, um, uh, folks who investigate deaths, social workers, and their findings were then, um, able to be used by hospital systems across the state, uh, because they are looking at specific trends of what is driving these deaths among pregnant women and, and women up to a year postpartum, um, and, you know, really helping develop targeted, uh, programs-

Mm-hmm.

The department still will not release that information, and all of that puts Florida in stark contrast to many other states.

All 50 states have a panel like this one.

Um, and it's best practice for these panels to be, um, inscribed in state law, to be articulated specifically what their responsibilities are, uh, who sits on these panels, um, and Florida's panel, uh, notably is, is not written into state law-