
Kate Epstein
Kate Epstein is a professor of history at Rutgers University-Camden, historian of computing, defense contracting, intellectual property, and government secrecy, and author of "Analog Superpowers" (2024).
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Oct 27, 2025
Kate Epstein on How Twentieth-Century Technology Theft Built the National-Security State" (U Chicago Press, 2024)
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Lee VinselHOST
And so, yeah, explain this, you know, kind of explain this gap chasm and, you know, and what you're trying to do with it in your book.

Kate EpsteinGUEST
So, yeah, I mean, I think that there are exceptions, but I do stand by that as a kind of generalization.

Kate EpsteinGUEST
Yeah, most of the I think when people write about intellectual property in particular, they just and there's a there's a really rich literature on the history of intellectual property by legal historians.

Kate EpsteinGUEST
But they don't really consider like the quite distinctive context of national security secrecy.
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Kate Epstein on How Twentieth-Century Technology Theft Built the National-Security State" (U Chicago Press, 2024)
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Lee VinselHOST
And so, yeah, explain this, you know, kind of explain this gap chasm and, you know, and what you're trying to do with it in your book.

Kate EpsteinGUEST
So, yeah, I mean, I think that there are exceptions, but I do stand by that as a kind of generalization.

Kate EpsteinGUEST
Yeah, most of the I think when people write about intellectual property in particular, they just and there's a there's a really rich literature on the history of intellectual property by legal historians.

Kate EpsteinGUEST
But they don't really consider like the quite distinctive context of national security secrecy.
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Lee VinselHOST
What did the British have that the U.S. didn't at that time that would have allowed, maybe allowed technology transfer to go a bit more smoothly?