Mm.

And there was, there were, like, number of factors to this, and I think it's very important to talk about these factors because basically any country can go through the same path.

So what I mean by that is that, first of all, drones is a commercial technology which is accessible to any military in the world, to any civilian in the world.

So when the occupation of Donbas and Crimea started, basically this kind of technology, uh, was available online, and that's why Ukrainian soldiers started to buy, buy drones just, you know, with their own funds.

So that's one factor.

Another factor is that, um, Ukrainian military was quite small, and a lot of civilians joined it.

So basically they brought knowledge and experience and their professional skills from their civilian life, and that helped to adopt drones, uh, and integrate drones, uh, into the military really fast.

Right

Um, so maybe you could talk a little bit how drones are sort of penetrating how, how the Russian military is, is thinking about warfare.

warfare.Yeah, Max, you know, partially you're right.

Russian military is partially stuck in, uh, last century, uh, and it is true, but it's only part of the Russian military.

Another part is evolving fast and adapting fast, and I would say that we cannot put all Russian military under one, I would say, stereotype, right? It's rigid and old school, or it's modern and, uh, adapting fast because it's really huge, and they also have their pockets of innovation.

They also have their innovative generals who think and who have different mindset, and they're also fighting with the old system.

So I would say that Russian military is going through its transformation, and there is internal resistance, of course, uh, as well as anywhere else.

There is a resistance of bureaucracy and, um, old school military.

It seems like this is progressing, and I just want your take on where you think this is headed.