a child with that

we are all dreaming about.

And now I maybe know how it feels over there.

But before I was with my children very by myself and in the studio all the time.

So if there was like these feelings of tension or demand and touch and everything that you are describing, it was like you really like that, that my painting process was really just... like waking up and feeling like I can't do this I can't paint like with two children in my studio and they were really everywhere and on my painting and also like very demanding and I wanted to of course be there for them but there was this part where it had to be a part of the day was a studio practice and because they were with me and they were over the painting and we were doing it together and it was that push and pull of them like doing it their way then I do it my way and then doing it together I feel like this intensity and demand was actually very very inspiring and also never like really like pushed me further in a painting like developing my painting language because if they were not there I would probably just do it my way that I'm used to you know like uh Like you feel like, OK, this is your comfort zone and you paint this way.

But they really made it whatever they wanted to make it.

And I was constantly out of my comfort zone.

What is that like? How did you get there? How