
Karline McLain
Professor of Religious Studies (Presidential Professor) at Bucknell University, scholar of religion in colonial and postcolonial India and author of "Living with Gandhi: Experiments in Utopia" (2026).
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Sep 24, 2026
Karline McLain, "Living with Gandhi: Experiments in Utopia" (Association for Asian Studies, 2026)
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14:05Raj BalkaranHOST
What do we gain or what do we discern, what do we bring into focus when we view Gandhi's works through the lens of, of these, um, these utopia dwellers, these individuals, this, the setting? Feel free to, if you'd like, you can share the t- the, uh, the, the main arguments of the book, but no, wha- what comes into focus for us when we look at this?

Karline McLainGUEST
Yeah, I can say a little bit about what the book is just about and then what the main argument or arguments of the book are.

Karline McLainGUEST
Um, so the, what was it like to live with Gandhi? This is really sort of the central question that the book is examining by focusing on everyday life at the four major communities that Gandhi established.

Karline McLainGUEST
Uh, so he founded Phoenix Settlement and Tolstoy Farm in South Africa in the 21 years that he lived and worked there.

Karline McLainGUEST
And then when he returned to India in 1915, he founded two additional major communities, uh, Sabarmati Ashram and Sevagram Ashram.

Karline McLainGUEST
And these communities attracted a pretty diverse group of residents who came from multiple religious, racial, national backgrounds and who were drawn not only to Gandhi, but also to the collective effort to try to forge a community of equals that could challenge the inequalities of the colonialist, capitalist status quo of the day.
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31:23Raj BalkaranHOST
Do you wanna say a little bit about, you know, some of those figures or maybe someone or something that maybe stayed with you?
Karline McLain, "Living with Gandhi: Experiments in Utopia" (Association for Asian Studies, 2026)
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Karline McLainGUEST
And particularly in the framing of the book and in the conclusion, I really try to bring to bear the lens of the disciplines of religious studies and utopian studies to think through these sites, Gandhi's communities, as communal spaces.

Karline McLainGUEST
I think bringing the disciplines of religious studies and utopian studies into conversation with Gandhian studies allows us to critically examine the evolution of Gandhi's philosophy of universal well-being.

Karline McLainGUEST
As I've mentioned, Gandhi's often praised for his laudable commitment to nonviolence.

Karline McLainGUEST
But I think this praise usually overlooks the sacrifice and the suffering that really was central to Gandhi's philosophy of sarvodaya, universal well-being, and to his method of nonviolent resistance.
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30:23Raj BalkaranHOST
Do you want to say a little bit about some of those figures or maybe someone or something that maybe stayed with you?
Karline McLain, "Living with Gandhi: Experiments in Utopia" (Association for Asian Studies, 2026)
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Karline McLainGUEST
Yeah, I can say a little bit about what the book is just about, and then what the main argument or arguments of the book are.

Karline McLainGUEST
Um, so the, what was it like to live with Gandhi? This is really sort of the central question that the book is examining by focusing on everyday life at the four major communities that Gandhi established.

Karline McLainGUEST
Uh, so he founded Phoenix Settlement and Tolstoy Farm in South Africa in the 21 years that he lived and worked there.

Karline McLainGUEST
And then when he returned to India in 1915, he founded two additional major communities, uh, Sabarmati Ashram and Sevagram Ashram.

Karline McLainGUEST
And these communities attracted a pretty diverse group of residents who came from multiple religious, racial, national backgrounds, and who were drawn not only to Gandhi, but also to the collective effort to try to forge a community of equals that could challenge the inequalities of the colonialist, capitalist status quo of the day.
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32:29Raj BalkaranHOST
Do you wanna say a little bit about, you know, some of those figures or maybe someone or something that maybe stayed with you?
Karline McLain, "Living with Gandhi: Experiments in Utopia" (Association for Asian Studies, 2026)
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Karline McLainGUEST
And particularly in the framing of the book and in the conclusion, I really try to bring to bear the lens of the disciplines of religious studies and utopian studies to think through these sites, Gandhi's communities, as communal spaces.

Karline McLainGUEST
I think bringing the disciplines of religious studies and utopian studies into conversation with Gandhian studies allows us to critically examine the evolution of Gandhi's philosophy of universal well-being.

Karline McLainGUEST
As I've mentioned, Gandhi's often praised for his laudable commitment to nonviolence.

Karline McLainGUEST
But I think this praise usually overlooks the sacrifice and the suffering that really was central to Gandhi's philosophy of sarvodaya, universal well-being, and to his method of nonviolent resistance.
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Raj ValkaHOST
Do you want to say a little bit about some of those figures or maybe someone or something that maybe stayed with you