Um, but-

Um, but yeah, so my, my journey with this.

Yes, so, um, Michelle and I have been great friends.

She, you know, was a writer for Bold, and, uh, we went through the whole Maya storyline together, which was really powerful.

Um, and then just became friends.

Like, uh, you know, she has, uh, this really fun birthday party for-- That she does a birthday party every year, and she has like all the women in her life from many walks of life who have known her for 20 years, who've known her for two months come.

Um, and so I started going to those.

... from nothing and right away and feel that? Is it like, do you h- is it backstory? Is it just being super present and out in like point of view? What is it?