... that they're trying to go through?

Well, the hus- the wife obviously is feeling really rejected because of the betrayal, whether it's been pornography or if it's been an affair or one-night stands or, you know, whatever it is, she's feeling rejected as a woman.

She's feeling rejected as a wife.

She's feeling rejected of as, as a person.

She's feeling rejected as a sex partner.

And so she's in the throes of rejection so much that she's even wondering, "Who am I? Am I adequate?" Um, I mean, she ha- she can have crises not only in her marriage but in her mothering, in everything.

It can literally destabilize her whole world depending on the severity.

Can you talk about how that fear, even if it's only in their mind, like they haven't necessarily actually experienced these losses yet, but the fear of the potential of loss, what does that do in the relationship during this season?