That's how I get all my jobs.

So they said, okay, you're going to be working with Binational Work in Mexico, but you've got to get yourself into it.

So I started writing articles about their work, and I did not understand what it was exactly.

Julie, I'm sorry, but for two years I wasn't really knowing what I was doing.

But I got involved in a project at the time, Forefront ED, created by the mayors in all communities in Yuma.

And my job was starting to get involved with that in education and going to Mexico and creating the partnerships with the schools and Yuma schools with all the universities.

Eventually, I think in less than four or six months, we were writing a MOU project.

shop, coffee shop.