Uh, but also, uh, the second part to that question is what do you see that you've been able to encourage as people look toward who's gonna take over when the present, uh, operators, uh, move on to something else?

Yeah.

The ebb and flow is a great thing because that means maybe we've helped to do our job, we've helped with education, we've helped with management needs, infrastructure, and we- we're learning all along as well with every rancher.

Every situation is a little bit different.

And so we can help to give our technical assistance and then learn as it's implemented and, and learn about what worked and what didn't.

And so the ebb and flow is, that's real, and we work with people intensively for a while, and then they kinda got it and they'll, and they'll go and, uh, go on their own.

So that's a, a natural thing, but it's really nice to be able to come back, uh, after 30 years and, and talk with and see how our, our producers are doing.

Karen, last comments to help people understand this whole business of rangeland here on, in Alaska, and your role in it.