Mm.

I mean, they, I mean, they have, uh, incredible defensive systems that mo- that are engaged very quickly and easily, and this woman was like this.

She was-- She really couldn't tolerate any negative feedback from me.

And she was talking about her son, who was in his early 20s, living at home, and she often brought him up because he had actually had a suicide attempt as he was graduating from college and was briefly hospitalized.

And she w- And he was living, he spent years living with them.

And I found myself getting increasingly irritated by this, and even disgusted, impatient.

I kept wanting to go, "Why are you doing this?" You know, "You're enabling him." He didn't work for long periods of time, and he was, you know, very intelligent, did very well in school, somewhat on the spectrum, but, you know, mildly so, and fully capable of working and doing other things.

Like, I'm, I'm-