
Karen Doll
Licensed psychologist, author, and partner at Psynet Group; chairs Harvard University's Flourishing at Work initiative
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Jun 3, 2026
What High-Performing Leaders Get Wrong About Stress with Karen Doll
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8:37Jim VasilopoulosHOST
I'm not-- don't-- carrying a log or a boat." You know, how is it that me, just someone who's, you know, a knowledge worker going into the office or working from home on Zoom or Teams, what is the kinda stuff I can do that is really practical at home? Is it kind of just reading enough to change your mindset, or is it like what are the practical, tactical things I can do, let's say, when I get up in the morning or, you know, when I feel that stimulus and before I respond to help people develop their own toughness?

Karen DollGUEST
When I was doing research for this book, the term psychological fitness, I think, really has its origin in the military.

Karen DollGUEST
In some of the programs that they had developed a few decades ago, they used the term psychological fitness because, you know, most of us now know the mind and body are connected.
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21:17Jim VasilopoulosHOST
So what is it that we should be paying attention to, to kind of, like, who should we be looking towards that, you know, the potential leaders are, and what signals are they sending that we should be paying attention to as we evaluate our teams and the people working for us?