Okay.

And God sent me just an army of saints that began investing in my life, right? And so it was through that consistent investment, every corner I turned, mind you, I was coming out of years of trauma and crisis.

Sure.

disappointment and just dysfunction and failure you know i just can't express that that's barely summing up the actual experience i had but it was through god and his saints that just kept ministering to me at every place i turned i started getting involved with the programs at this community agency And then I became a volunteer.

And just, you know, through the course of a few years, I had experienced a healing that just transformed the entire rest of my life, as well as, you know, the trajectory of the direction that I was headed.

And I was able through that support to learn that my identity was not on what my choices and my experiences were and everything that I had failed at.

And so it just drew me out of that place I could never get out of myself.

What would you say to one, a family that's in a dark place, but second, to a member who knows of a family that's in a dark place, what can they do and say to encourage them to seek services or to get some help? What would you say as we share and transition and close out our time together? I want you to speak to that person and to that family.

Where did that come from?

Well, Charles, I myself have had quite a journey throughout my life, quite a testimony.

I've had to go through a lot of hard seasons, and I've overcome a lot of hard life experiences – devastation, despair, loss, failures – Many years of my life, I was walking in deception because I had no investments throughout my entire first part of life.

And so I had tried numerous times over the years to try to crawl out of those places where...

I lacked coping skills.

I lacked direction.

And I lacked so many things.

Okay.