Yeah

... that moment and I, like, the numbers at that point in the game, they, they just were where they were.

I didn't quite realize how much on the outs that I was, but I think it was a lot of these people that, you know, maybe, like, a lot of ego or whatever, and they were just looking at us, the underdogs of that season, like, "Yep, we just gonna get them out of here one by one." But when Laurel was having that conversation, she didn't realize that I was just a few feet away in the bathroom.

I think I was in there with, with Kaylee, I wanna say.

Yeah.

And then I was like, "Wait, what? Like, y'all are not about to be out here talking about me." So because they thought I made, um, I was plotting with- I forgot who, maybe Cara or somebody before the season started, and I'm like, "I didn't, but if I did, why would I be scared to tell you?" Like, why would I be afraid to tell you or any of y'all?

[laughs]

Don't, don't care about sending this person in or like whatever those consequences are.

Do you m- do you miss doing the show as consistently as you did in the 30s to 35 era?

Yeah.

You know, when I actually did All Stars, I think a lot of moms will relate to this right here, but I wasn't ready to accept what my life was, like the reality of becoming a mom.

Because I remember going into motherhood, I had the mentality of, "Just because I'm having a kid, my life is never gonna change.

I'm gonna still do all the things that I used to do." Like, I remember having that mindset.

And with going on All Stars, I said yes to the call because I asked myself, I was like, "Kam, if you didn't have kids, would you be saying yes?" And I was like, "Yeah." So I'm like, "Okay, well, go, 'cause having a kid shouldn't stop you from going." But in reality, I wasn't really ready to go.

So I think that that was just, like, a very interesting point and time within my life because, like, with, with motherhood, w- some, at some point in your motherhood journey, it will click that, "Oh, crap, I, I do have to mourn my old life." Not that it's completely gone, not that Killa Kam is completely gone forever, but this season of my life, it, it does look a little bit different.

Mm.