Sure.

He's been there.

He's been around the program, obviously, uh, because Dan Lanning's on his first year.

He's been around Dan Lanning.

He knows what they want.

B- but he is not as talented as Dylan Raiola.

Uh, sometimes it is easier to come in and be the guy who there's nothing to lose because you're getting thrown into the fire, and he showed that he, he was up for the moment.

Mm-hmm.