How did you know you were going to get what you wanted creating this podcast?

Oh, yeah.

So when I before I started the podcast, I was I switched over to working from a mushroom company where I was kind of like foraging, growing mushrooms, delivering culinary mushrooms to different restaurants in Minnesota to being like, I need a big person job and I need to get some insurance and work in a lab and.

do more experience.

So I transferred over to working at Mayo Clinic and it was lab based, but it was very like analyzing blood samples for immunology.

So it's not really like ideal.

But yeah, I had a lot of time to listen to podcasts.

What did you do about it?