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Kai Werder

Kai Werder

Kai Werder (they/them) is a certified sex educator, MSW-level clinical-community social worker, and care lead at the Spring Up transformative justice collective.

Sep 17, 2026

2:51
I guess that sounds like a pretty good place to start, right? Like what is desire and desire discrepancy? Is that something that you can kind of shed some light on?
3:00
Yeah.
3:03
Desire, there are multiple models of desire from sexologists through the years.
3:11
And so the first one comes in the 1960s from Masterson Johnson, who worked to create this model, which is a linear model.
3:22
And it starts with excitement.
3:24
Then you have the plateau that you're experiencing pleasure as a plateau.
3:29
Then you have orgasm, which goes up a little bit on the line.

25 MINS LATER

28:48
But what if you want to have sex and your partner doesn't? How do we deal with that? And how do we deal with it when it's like an ongoing issue?

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