but, uh, you know, working with the Utah Safety Council or National Safety Council or Weber State or, how do you just, how do you decide you're gonna, uh, fur- advance your career? What are some of the steps you would recommend?

Yeah.

So like I said, there's two- ... kind of paths that I see, and maybe Doug you've seen this as well, and John.

You know, there's that traditional student.

Somehow they hear about occupational safety and health.

Like I had a student in my class on Monday.

He's like, "My sister came up to me, saw the Instagram post and said, 'This is for you.'" And he, and he saw it, and he's like, "I work at..." I can't remember where he worked, but, "I- I'm, I'm always worried about safety, you know? And so I saw this.

Yes.