I'm curious, you know, in my, I've been involved in the water business for many years and we've always been accused of being kind of conservative and maybe behind the times, you know, kind of lagging behind, say, you know, the electric utility industry, you know, was that, Was is that one of the reasons why you thought about developing this program? You know, was because, you know, it just feels like the water industry needs to be brought into the current century in a lot of different ways.

Yeah, I would say we don't we didn't have.

necessarily like that deep an understanding of what the water community needed.

The story of the origin, our Dean Marco Pagani was in California and he was friends with Andrew Walters, who was then I believe the chief financial officer of San Jose Water.

And they had a conversation once, cause where Marco was, they had some programs that were sort of public sector business training programs at his university.

And they said, you know, I think Andrew brought it up that this might be something the water community can need.

I think that he could see the writing on the wall that, you know, we have retirements coming.

You know, like I said, the finance stuff, technical stuff, you know, any other, you know, kind of core class or core learning that you're, you know, bringing to the table.